On the Road to Forgiving the Injustice of a Narcissist



 First of all, let me say that this post is not meant to tell you what to believe, sit in judgment of your beliefs or make myself out to have loftier spiritual beliefs than you if you don’t happen to have the beliefs I do. If you are still interested in reading on, please exchange my spiritual vernacular for your own. 

This is a tough subject for alot of us. Before I even get into the principle of forgiveness let’s talk about the injustice narcissist’s dish out to their targets / victims indiscriminately. 

Here are just a few injustices that narcissists inflict: 

    Infidelity                   Cheating partners out of finances          Defamation, False Prosecution 
    Lying                        Smear campaigning                               Rumor spreading 

    Triangulation            Backbiting                                              Manipulating 

    Tricking                    Getting targets fired from jobs                Turning children against you

    Controlling               Using others                                           Verbal, Mental, Emotional & Physical Abuse

    Threatening             Soul Rape                                               Identity thieving

    Breaking someone   Ruining relationships                              Abandoning / Discarding

   Gaslighting                Refusing to apologize                           Finger pointing and blaming


I’m sure I’ve missed a number of them, as narcissists are so lethal to other human beings, there are a plethora of transgressions not covered in this short list.

From the time we start interacting with a narcissist, our feelings are required to be suppressed in order to keep the narcissist comfortable with their view of reality. We were forced to play it small, stuff our thoughts, feelings, needs and wants, because a narcissist is not capable of sharing mutually within a relationship. When we have complaints or have boundaries that are crossed, our attempts to communicate those have the narcissist chastising and verbally berating us with put downs that discourage us from sharing again. The narcissist shows us that our honest expression will be met with abuse. With healthy communication squelched, our emotions become a pressure cooker waiting to blow. Sometimes the containment of our anger lasts for years. 

When we’ve finally escaped the prison of the narcissistic relationship, we not only have the emotions we’ve long put a lid on, but with each new discovery about how ruthless and inhumane the narcissist really is, we process emotions that  we weren’t prepared for:  shock, disbelief, denial, hurt, abandonment, injustice, fear, and the most intense anger I believe a human being can feel. If you’ve ever experienced being betrayed, soul raped, identity thieved, robbed and then lied about and blamed by a person you called a close friend, this is the closest I can get to describing what narcissistic abuse feels like to those who haven’t experienced it. 

We pass through many stages of grief and healing as we recover from this type of abuse. Although each stage feels like an eternity, we finally arrive at a place where we feel that we’ve gotten over most of the feelings, only to arrive at a place that requires we do something that feels like the impossible: Forgive the narcissist for their injustices.

I grapple even writing those words because honestly, in my anger and disgust over the things that narcissists get away with, they should be punished criminally and spiritually. I’d much rather put these soul sucking psychopaths  away in prison or cordoned off to a penal colony / island with others like them so that they can experience the hell they put others through.

However, It all comes down to being people with integrity, people who take the high road, who don’t want to be attached through hatred or bitterness for the rest of our lives to the likes of a narcissist. It becomes another choice we make, another step we take, another classy thing we do in response to this abuse.

I’ve got to be honest. It is VERY VERY VERY difficult to let go of this anger. It seems that if I let go of the anger, that I will  be enabling and allowing narcissists to get away these atrocities against people I care for and want to protect; myself included. If my anger has been channeled in order to advocate for all victims of narcissistic abuse, what happens when I let this go?

 I am, willing to let go of any bitterness and unforgiveness that I have that could be harming myself and others. I want to face this injustice and anger.  In the coming weeks, I will be exploring many techniques, tips, writings, as well as spiritual counseling to overcome the soul tie and trauma bond I have with the abuser and sharing my findings and research with all of you who are at this stage of recovery. 

Below is a great article I found to get us started: 

10 Keys to Forgiveness… A Christian Perspective

Emmett I. Aldrich


1)      Let Go Of The Anger – Holding on to the anger that may be associated with an incident or experience that causes us hurt, can lead to hate, and perhaps a lingering desire for retaliation or revenge.  This is destructive and causes an emotional drain on us even if we don’t realize it. 

Dr. Michael Obsatz, in his book, Healing Our Anger: Seven Ways to Make Peace in a Hostile World indicates that there are eight types of anger (page 12).  These include:

  1. Chronic anger is an ongoing feeling of resentment toward others.
  2. Volatile anger is explosive but comes and goes.
  3. Judgmental anger comes across in hypercritical statements.
  4. Passive anger is suppressed anger that is expressed indirectly.
  5. Overwhelmed anger arises when people believe they cannot handle the complexity of their circumstances.
  6. Retaliatory anger is specifically directed at another person or persons.
  7. Self-inflicted anger is directed at ourselves.
  8. Constructive anger is anger we put to positive uses.

With exception of this last type, most of these angers are destructive.  Continuing to be angry over something that happened in the past, can be all consuming and distorts our ability to focus on happiness.  Consequently, letting go of the anger is in our own best interest.  We must let go of the anger for our mental and emotional well-being.  In the language of today’s common phrases – “Get Over It.”  Forgiveness gives you peace of mind and helps to let go of the anger.


2)      Don’t Be Stubborn – For some reason, it seems to be a lot easier to hold on to the anger and hurt feelings associated with an injustice, and we can become comfortable with the feeling of retribution because we somehow want to punish the person that hurt us.  After all, why should we be willing to forgive someone when what that person did or said was not our fault?  We feel justified in our anger with the other person, so we feel that we have every right to be stubborn and locked into the position we are taking. 

Don’t get stuck on your position for the mere sake of maintaining a position.  Be willing to compromise in order to move forward. Stubbornness, like anger keeps us from moving beyond hurt feelings, and it also perpetuates a strained relationship.


3)      Stop Thinking Of Yourself As A Victim – Generally, if we are angry with someone, it is because we feel that they have committed a serious wrong against us.  Whether this feeling is real or perceived, we still feel that an injustice has been done, and that we have been treated unfairly.  We can’t help but feel sorry for ourselves to some degree, and we expect others to feel sorry for us as well.  This is perhaps the classic “victim mentality” which is easy to fall into when we feel an injustice has been done. 

While this mentality may be soothing for a short period of time, unfortunately it keeps us from moving beyond the hurt that we feel.  We remain caught-up in a state-of-mind that makes us hostile, cranky, untrusting and keeps us “looking over our shoulder” for fear that someone else may come along to hurt us. 

Bishop Desmond Tutu, in his book titled, There Is No Future Without Forgiveness (page 272) [By the way, I highly recommend this book if you want to do more reading on Forgiveness] – Bishop Tutu tells a classic story of forgiveness about former soldiers visiting the Vietnam War Memorial, when one veteran asks another, “Have you forgiven those who held you as a prisoner of war?  He replied, “I will never forgive them!”  The other veteran responded, “Then it seems they still have you in prison, don’t they?” Years later he was still holding deep-seated resentment for what his captors had put him through. 

Perhaps his friend’s comment helped him to start to think of his POW experience differently and to take responsibility for his own feelings.  If we cannot get beyond the “victim mentality” we cannot expect to think about forgiving others.


4)      Focus On The Future – Usually what has been done cannot be undone and dwelling on the past only perpetuates the hurt feelings that resulted from what caused the problem in the first place.  Continually bringing up sore points or issues of the past will only make the rift larger.

Some time ago, I received one of those many email messages from someone who had too much time on their hands and sends email to everyone they know, usually all of their family and friends.  Most of the time, I will just delete them after glancing at it just enough to get the gist of what it is about.  One of the ones that I received had the title of, “Sand and Stone.” 

The story tells of two friends who were walking through the desert.  At some point during the journey they had an argument, and one friend slapped the other one in the face.  The one who was slapped was hurt but without saying a word, he wrote in the sand: “Today my best friend slapped me in the face.”  They kept walking until they found an oasis where they decided to take a bath.  The one who had been slapped got stuck in the mire of the water and started drowning, but his friend saved him.  After he recovered from the near drowning, he wrote on a stone: “Today my best friend saved my life.”  The friend who had slapped, and then saved his best friend asked him, “After I hurt you, you wrote in the sand and now you write on a stone, why?”  The other friend replied: “When someone hurts us we should write it down in sand where the winds of forgiveness can erase it away.  But, when someone does something good for us, we must engrave it in stone where no wind can ever erase it.” 


5)      Re-Learn to Trust OTHERS and ourselves

Additionally, re-learning to trust involves Trusting ourselves and TRUSTING OTHERS.  


6)      Be Reasonable in Your Expectations of Others – In the midst of anger, our emotions are high and frequently our judgment of fairness is clouded.  We expect others to recognize the injustice they have done, and apologize immediately and profusely.  We want the person to atone to us in some elaborate or excessive manner.  The mind-set is that this is our way of ensuring that an apology is genuine if one is offered. 


7)      Expect That It Will Take Time To Forgive – At this point in time in human evolution, we have grown accustom to, and expect “quick fixes” and “instant gratification” for solutions to almost every problem.  Healing from a hurt may generally come with the passage of time, but you must allow yourself time to reach the level of forgiveness appropriate for the circumstances.  Deeply emotional circumstances or extremely sensitive hurts (such as the loss of a child or spouse to crime or spousal infidelity) will take time to move beyond the hurt before a person can even begin to consider forgiving those who caused the hurt. 

Lesser transgressions on the other hand, such as hurtful words, comments or some actions are likely to be forgotten in a shorter period of time.  Have you ever had another driver cut you off in traffic, and for an instant you are very angry because you felt that the person jeopardized your safety.  But after a few blocks (or maybe even sooner) you have forgotten about it and refocused your attention on your driving.  Generally, by the time you get where you are going, you have completely forgotten about the incident and may not even remember what kind of car the other person was driving. 

Have you ever forgotten why you were angry with someone?  You know that at the time, the person did something to make you angry, but months later you can’t remember what it was that made you so angry at the time.  You may even feel that you should still be angry with the person now because whatever they did must have been so horrendous because you were really upset with them before.  You remember that you are angry, but can’t remember why.  If you can’t remember what it was about, perhaps you have already forgiven that person at least subconsciously in your mind – and perhaps in your heart you also let go of the anger without really acknowledging or realizing it.


8)      Examine Your Heart – [This is one of the hardest] – Look within yourself to see if you are contributing to situations that you may later regret and will need to seek forgiveness.  Is your behavior or off-handed comments contributing to a strained relationship?  Think before you speak.  While we have a constitutional right to the freedom of speech, we do not have an “inalienable right” to say what ever we want, any time we want, particularly if it may be hurtful.  Would you be willing to forgive someone for the same offense you committed against someone else? – And would you expect the person offended to forgive you?  The concept here is to be honest with yourself in considering your own behavior and whether it contributes to strained or hurtful relationships. 

There are a number of every day values that we can follow to examine our hearts and take this inward look.  These are not new to us, but we can use occasional reminders.  While there are many more, here are 10 of those values to consider:


  • Be tolerant of others
  • Treat others like you want to be treated 
  • Be polite with your interactions
  • Treat others with respect at all times 
  • Avoid criticizing others 
  • Don’t jump to conclusions
  • Give others the benefit of the doubt as a matter of routine 
  • Be willing to overlook minor offenses
  • Have a positive attitude
  • Be willing to apologize


9)      Let Forgiveness Become An Everyday Practice – What a transforming experience it would be in our lives if we were able to forgive someone immediately upon them committing the offense – without hanging on to the anger for a much longer period of time.  This might be possible if we let forgiveness become an integral part of our lives and a guiding value to live by. 

It takes a lot of energy to maintain resentment, anger or distrust.  Instead of holding on to those negative feelings, why not refocus and redirect that energy into making a contribution of time and effort to a special cause or ministry?  Why not use the energy to serve God?  Let the focus become what you can do for others, rather than dwelling on the hurt and anger you feel because of an injustice.  Count your blessings.  Remember the good things about your life and don’t dwell on hurt feelings.  Let forgiveness become an essential part of your life. 


10) Ask God For Guidance – Being able to forgive or seek forgiveness is not just an intellectual decision, but there is also a spiritual dimension involved.  In the parable of the unmerciful servant in the book of Matthew in the Bible, we find some guidance on how we should deal with forgiveness.

“Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me?  Up to seven times?  Jesus answered, I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.”

   (Matthew 18:21)

This tends to suggest that forgiveness is limitless, and that we must be willing to forgive someone for a transgression time and time again without seeking retribution.  This is a powerful message.  For most of us, this standard may seem impossible to meet.  Nonetheless, it sets-forth the objectives we should attempt to achieve in our lives.  In order to achieve this level of forgiveness, we must pray for strength, patience and perseverance in our relationships that may require forgiveness.

In Mark 11:25, Christ tells us,

  “And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.”

In Luke 6:36-37, Christ admonishes us,

“Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.  Do not judge, and you will not be judged.   Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.  Forgive and you will be forgiven.”

In the Book of Psalm we find this passage,

“If you, O Lord, kept a record of sins, O Lord who could stand?  But with you there is forgiveness; therefore you are feared.”

(Psalm 130:3-4)

If God kept an account of our sins, we would all be in trouble.  But God both forgives and forgets our sins by not keeping a record of them.  In turn, we receive power from God through Jesus Christ to forgive others, and to forget the hurts they might have caused.

In 2 Corinthians 5:14-21 Paul writes about the Ministry of Reconciliation.  From this we learn that “God reconciled the world to himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them.”  The passage continues: “We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God was making his appeal through us.”  This calls for us to be Christ-like in our behavior, and requires us to forgive others for the offenses they may commit against us.  

In her book, Do it Yourself Conflict Resolution for Couples, Dr. Florence Bienenfeld points out that, “Forgiveness is a great healer.  This involves forgiving ourselves, forgiving others, and seeking forgiveness from others.”  (Page 157). 

While this article does not address self-forgiveness in any detail, we are called by God to forgive others and to seek forgiveness from others as noted in Matthew chapter 18 earlier.  Furthermore, we cannot overlook the petitions of the Lord’s Prayer – “Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us” (Matthew 6:12). 

Even if direct communications are difficult with a person we would like to forgive, we can forgive them in our heart without ever talking to them.  When we realize that we have committed a wrong, we are compelled to express sincere regret and ask the person to, “please forgive me.”

On July 23, 2002, NBC News reported on the sexual abuse scandals that have shaken the foundations of the Catholic Church.  The reporter noted that a sign in front of a Church displayed this phrase: “Its not about forgiveness, it’s about justice.”  While the child abuses that have occurred are despicable, I don’t believe this is the posture God would have us take on forgiveness.      

In Ephesians chapter 4:31-32, Paul tells us,

“Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.  Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgaveyou.” 

Paul repeats this requirement in Colossians Chapter 3:12-14, where we find Rules for Holy Living.  Paul writes, 

“Therefore as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.  Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another.  Forgive as the Lord forgave you.  And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. ” 

These passages from the Apostle Paul call for us to use the example of God’s forgiveness and love for us, as the model for our own behavior in forgiving others.  Above all, while God has already forgiven us for our sins, we must continually ask for his forgiveness in order for us to model his love.

Forgiveness ensures the presence of God in our lives.  As Christ died on the cross for our sins, we receive divine forgiveness from him.

Posted on August 24, 2014, in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 31 Comments.

  1. Thank you for this article. Forgiveness ultimately releases you from the prison. My exwife was a narcissist who had an affair and left me when I finally stood up to her and asked her to get help for the many years of destructive behavior on her part. She was always the victim and blamed me for everything and I took the bait for so many years. Narcissism is a mental illness usually caused by the unstable and abuse-filled environment from the person’s family past which was the case for my ex. I recognize this now and have chosen to forgive her. We are all children of God. I trust in God to heal me and pray that I can be the father my son deserves cause this is effecting him greatly. Forgive the narcissist. Detach yourself from them. Choose love and be happy. Love conquers hate everytime.


  2. Question: As of 4 days ago, my divorce from narc became legal after 33.5 years of living hell. I recently found out he married again less than one hour after the divorce hearing, BEFORE the final divorce decree had even been prepared!!! Now, I find it hard to believe he didn’t know what he was doing-that the marriage is NOT legal. I feel a little bit sorry for the poor soul who married him though. Why wouldn’t she ask him to see the decree? Why do I even CARE? He’s 55, she’s 37. Should I say something to someone? My attorney said she’s not under any obligation to report anything unless I want her to or unless he tries to put her name on something that affects the judge’s order as it relates to me. SHOULD I MIND MY BUSINESS AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY???


  3. Still struggling with the thoughts of retaliatory anger but this article helps me to understand that it is part of the process. A process in which I do not want to remain but move through. I am more able to move toward forgiveness and for that I am profoundly grateful.


  4. Wow!
    This is one of the best articles I’ve read to date as it encompasses everything, start to finish. This journey has taken me from identifying the Narcissist, to now looking inward at what I am doing, or have done to attract such a “monster under my bed”. I’m in anger, but I don’t want to be. The anger is alarming to me, having NEVER experienced greater Anger in my life! The continued deceptions, games, and manipulations are something that Nothing in my previous life’s experience ever prepared me for! Soul Rape is so accurate. Every word resonates with me. No one should ever have to encounter such individuals. I pray that God has someone Healthy for me. I want to be Healthy. I pray for all of you who have been brutalized by these unfeeling monsters. I hope we NEVER have to go through anything like this ever again.


  5. Colleen Ondechek

    I found this very helpful because I was married to a narcissist. He forced me to leave and put me through the ugliest child custody battle for 7 years. He would take me to court for everything and ruined me financially, mentally and emotionlly. He has manipulated the children through it all. I have learned to rid my anger and to go on but I am still so scarred by it all. I have been in relationships and have failed because of it. I have found God through it all but still feel so alone and the hurt is still there. I found this article very helpful because it is hard for me to explain to others what I went through.


  6. All my suffering witch is extremely verily hate felt pain ECT from A-Z u could make a a movie write a book both parents were full blower narcissist my dad was17yrs older my life was hell then I got hurt in the Navy an was ret from it one of my sailors was killed I saved two not one call from either one while I was in the hospital not one visit when I did get back I was homeless an scared neither would help it ok up where it started such hate only God. Bo’s why me I was blessed by God an his son Jesus with the powerful gift calledFORGIIVENESS now I say to any an all call on GOD an say I forgive them as they don’t no what they do AMEN praise Jesus as we couldn’t do it without him teaching an showing us how✝🇺🇸 I am Ret vet an disabled an give my pain to our lord an savior Jesus Christ as life is a vapor!


  7. I ran across these articles-God ordained no doubt at this junction in my life. It has been 3 yrs now since DDay with all hope lost as to a future w/my “husband” of 39 yrs. I’ve come to understand all that happened was this narcacisst dumping his sand bucket of pain (punishment) onto me-not for Truth, Reconciliation, Restoration or Accountability. These matters do not exist w/in such persons. I held out forgiveness #1because he did not ask #2because all the pattern of being consistent in his inconsistency never changed & the Final recognition that it never will. The unbareable truths are almost impossible for a “normal” person to wrap their head around much less a heart. The only place to go is forgiveness (eventually). It is where i find myself today. I asked God for Truth- completely unprepared for what it Really was!!). It was the beginning of a life I lived (forever changed). What the rest of it will look like I have no clue, but forgiveness must certainly b the way to begin it again. Your words have given me hope and inspiration that I will not have to go thru the rest of my life Broken. I know The Lord walks before me and did not bring this into my life w/o a purpose. I have held onto that knowledge in the deepest of despair.


  8. Melita Portsmouth

    I tried to forgive my narc so that he could have contact with his daughter but he abused me more now I don’t want no contact with him at all and I’ll never forgive him for what he’s done to me and his little girl


  9. For me, I am still in the process of forgiveness. I believe freedom from hatred and unforgiveness brings healing, although it takes time to come to that freedom. But I also do not believe that forgiving the N means reconciling. I believe in boundaries. For me, some days are better than others. What does help me is to validate and affirm myself and focus on pursuing (and believing in) my own dreams for the future. Also I find that singing my self-affirmations brings healing to me. Praying for them also brings me strength and peace. What is hard for me is holidays with the extended family N’s. I honestly don’t know how people do it who have to live with their N. For me, it’s tough enough to spend even one evening with the N’s in my extended family, it feels like suffocation! then afterward I am so relieved to have a month or two away from them.


  10. Oh my goodness – thank you for this! I am so angry right now I could spit and, of course, the Narcisist is having fun this holiday season!


  11. I think one way to reframe the entire experience of having endured this kind of relationship is to see that the person was put into our lives for a reason. They can be the very fuel that leads us on a journey to understand our wounds and reclaim our true self free from bondage of people pleasing and co-dependency. I do astrology and the narc turned up literally on my doorstep with a strong Saturn transit which I read may bring open enemies into my life. I kinda recognised this on one level on the first intense day we spent together. Forgiveness is at the end of a long process of complex emotions playing out over some years, I feel. We shouldn’t get there too early if it leads us back into denial. And in the end it is for us, to free ourselves. My question is something a friend of mine in recovery would often say to be about abusers around her. If they knew better they’d do better. But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep a good distance and boundary with these people – all Saturn’s lessons. 🙂


  12. Nina I think you have expressed that very well and incredibly important point and I tend to agree with you. I posted an article up the thread here a while ago questioning the need to always forgive!! I dont think (?!) ANA was suggesting that we SHOULD or MUST forgive, no matter what in order to recover but was trying to open up the conversation about this tricky subject? i think it is a good idea because there is SO much pressure to forgive and so many of us have all sorts of different ideas & feelings about it… It can be confusing and fraught so I think its great its being discussed – even if not everybody agrees with each other.
    And again I want to say how much I actually agree with everything you have said and greatly respect and appreciate you voicing it here!!! So thank you!!! And Im REALLY sorry to hear something of what an absolute monster nightmare your Narcissist was/is….his behaviour certainly sounds BEYOND unforgivable to me! 😦 I wish you so much good love, care and healing in your journey!! <3?


  13. why you put to the shoulders of terribly woulded people an extra burden be it to forgive the perpetrator? why to forgive the one who was continually raping me? and who told you that the only way to overcome this is to let go anger which comes only by forgiveness? anger is just a stage of the procedure of healing after a trauma. the majority of the people grow out of this, they pass all the stages and they reach acceptance and they move on with their lifes. nowhere in the stages of grief after a trauma is described forgiveness, nowhwere. acceptance may be very well indiferrence for someone that caused harm to me, it means that i know what horrible things he had done to me but i stopped giving him any sec of my thoughts or of my time. it means that i continue to live never forgeting the facts that happened but being emotionally stable so the memories dont haunt me anymore. it means overcome, nor forgive neither forget. please be very careful when you use this term for trauma survivors. you can cause great harm, even revictimisation.


  14. I think that learning to stand up for ourselves is the first step in recovering from narcissistic abuse. It is a crucial first step, because the abuser demands that we repress our feelings, our emotions, our words and the truth. When you are beginning to realize that you were in this type of controlled relationship (and many of us have been in them all of our lives) the anger and outrage that you finally *allow* yourself to feel is the only thing that makes recovery possible. So it seems counter-intuitive to ask yourself to forgive this person.

    And yet, as a Christian, I understand that forgiveness is required. In my case, I am a 56 year old woman who came face to face with a lifetime of repressed rage at my father’s funeral. I had never dealt with the anger I felt over being abandoned by him as a child (in horrendous fashion), and ignored by him my whole life, while I tried time after time to get his acceptance and love. At age 17, I married a Narcissist and continued the familiarity of being in a relationship with someone who put me down and devalued me. When Dad’s third wife effectively shut my father’s whole biological family out at the funeral service, and the Baptist Pastor (who claimed to be my father’s “best friend”) did not utter a single solitary word about myself, my brother, my children, my niece, my nephew (who was named after my father, btw) I felt abandoned and ignored all over again.

    I also had a huge panic attack. I suddenly realized how sad and lonely I had been my entire life.

    I knew right then and there that I HAD to stand up for myself. That the days of sitting quietly by, in the background, while my father spun his lies about HE was the victim, about how WE were selfish and uncaring – were OVER. I felt what I will have to call a RIGHTEOUS anger. When I approached the Pastor after the funeral, and confronted him with his behavior in slighting my Dad’s WHOLE biological family, it was the first time in my entire life I had ever stood up for ME.

    Afterwards, I wrote a 14 page letter to his widow and step-son, detailing exactly what my father had done to me and to my mother, and brother, and even his own siblings. Of course, she says I’m a liar, and how dare I “trash” my father like that. She told me good bye and God Bless and said that I am “messed up” and that I need prayer and that I only came around my father after I found out that he was sick (lung cancer.)

    It’s true, I did try even harder after my Dad was diagnosed with cancer. I spent money I could not afford and took my brother and nephew on a trip to visit him. I rented a large house in his city and took all of the grandchildren and great-grands to visit him. None of these visits resulted in any kind of conversation with my dad that was any deeper than the standard “coffee talk.” In other words, he talked about the weather, sports, national news, politics….but not one word about his life, his family, his feelings, or any regrets. Nope. And I am now learning, through research about Narcissism, that he was probably incapable of having a deep conversation and saw nothing wrong with it!

    It’s only been 6 months since my father passed, and I wish I could offer some kind of nugget of wisdom, but I’ve got nothing but my story. I do know that forgiveness is several months, if not years, down the road. Right now, I have a lifetime of anger to experience and deal with.


  15. I hope this is OK to offer up for consideration here ANA? If you can excuse the title of this Blog Post – I dont personally agree all forgiveness is “bullshit” as the title suggests but that perhaps, the “pressure” that is sometimes out in the world to do so may be very much unhelpful & yes “bullshit”! And I do believe that forgiveness is not always essential to moving on in healthy ways – but yes sometimes it definitely is. So, although some may think aspects of this Blog Post a bit extreme, I still found aspects of it very helpful in better articulating something I have pondered on and wondered about many times throughout my life. But I leave it you to decide if you think it relevant or helpful or not! X


  16. that was meant “psychological”,


  17. It is staggering to read your posts, the degree of accuracy of the “phenomenon” and the physiological consequences for” targets”! It is and (maybe is) a medical condition if the symptoms are so consistent across a vast population of the narc type. It is also so purposeful and unambiguous, because it is a true evil crime against normal human goodness and therefor follows a classic scheme to destroy it. I doubt that anything I have ever heard or read would resonate with my own experience so strongly. Thank you for your support, although I am being at the stage when it seems that the mauling emotional torture will never end


  18. And this is the Empathy Quotient rating scale that i bet most of us would rate fairly high on.


  19. Ive found this in past. Is this what N is referring to?


  20. Most of us are “empaths” – highly empathic people which is what these type are often attracted to. We have something they dont.


  21. Hello, ANA! I wanted to suggest that all the survivors take the Myers-Briggs test to see what personality type they are. I’ve noticed an interesting point when a few survivors I know (myself included) took the test. Basically, I’d like to check if there are certain personality types these bastards specifically aim for (I think there are, but I’d like to check). The test can be found online, so if you are willing, please make a request for the audience to take the test and publish it in a separate post. Take care!


  22. themethadonemaze

    What a great post! My mother is a narcissist and man can I relate to this blog! I am still trying to undo the damage done, but i can’t seem to ever create a solid relationship with her as i have tried on many occasions and when i think its going good, she does something to make me pull away yet again, it doesn’t matter if i share how she makes me feel, it doesn’t seem to matter any. So just can’t seem to move on and it tears me apart over and over again! Thanks for the great read and i will continue reading your other wonderful posts!


  23. This is a VERY interesting and to me fraught topic…. I am not 100% married to the idea that “forgiveness” is essential in all instances to moving on in a healthy way. But having said that Im not 100% opposed to the notion either….i really think there are many factors to be considered and its a bit each to their own as, although of course we have much in common between us, we each may come from and operate within differing frameworks that work best for some and not for others. So openminded discuss (even if somewhat uncomfortable at times!) and sharing of diverse ideas, practices and experiences of such things is I think invaluable and rich and I happily embrace it! There is, in my mind no recipe book or one size fits all, but considered reflective thinking about new information , ideas and experiences I hope assists us each to mindfully create what best works for us! I came across a blog article quite by accident and coincidentally yesterday (before you put this Post up!) that I thought was pretty thought provoking (some may even find it very challenging and uncomfortable indeed!?) and rang a number of bells for me (it may not others). i wonder if it would be ok for me to paste the link here on this comment thread ANA?! But I will wait to hear if you feel that would appropriate and OK with you? Otherwise I can just post it to my Page or your Facebook Page?


  24. forgiving would never stop my hurt or make me forget they hurt…..so in the end the only one who wins is him if I forgive him ! if I don’t forgive him i can still heal !…All I have to do is learn not stay angry…and live my life again…but he will never get my forgiveness and he never gave me any either….never apologized and always blamed me f his short coming in the relationship ..Forgive hell no…move on…yes ..I can someday….


    • Boy am I right there with you in this sentiment!

      It is damn near impossible to forgive someone who is unrepentant! They don’t deserve our forgiveness, that’s for sure. How long has it been for you Sophia?

      And btw, please know, that your opinion and thoughts on this topic are JUST AS important for me to read and see as are those who believe forgiveness is the path.

      I want to do the legwork to find modalities that will allow us to release the traumatic bond that ties us to the abuser once and for all. Forgiveness is just ONE of those paths.



  25. Wonderful post! I’m glad to say I’ve forgiven the Narcissist who abused me. Had it not been for what I went through, I may never have grown in the way that I have. It often takes life’s lowest lows to wake us up, and catapult us into transformation.


  26. Reblogged this on Healing my codependency and regaining my life ! and commented:
    A very interesting blog talking about anger and forgiveness


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